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		<title>Comment on Hands-on Preview: Pavel Moc Fechtschwert by Shay Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shay Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Feb 2012 03:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfect!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Hands-on Preview: Pavel Moc Fechtschwert by Martin Fabian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Fabian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Shay! Two of them (C and D – the another one with round pommel) are indeed quite sharp and it will be changed for the second generation. The hilt will be similar to the one on &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://swords.cz/pictures/swords/new2011/lichtenauer1s.jpg&quot; TITLE=&quot;Lichtenauer&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Shay! Two of them (C and D – the another one with round pommel) are indeed quite sharp and it will be changed for the second generation. The hilt will be similar to the one on <a HREF="http://swords.cz/pictures/swords/new2011/lichtenauer1s.jpg" TITLE="Lichtenauer" rel="nofollow"> model.</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Hands-on Preview: Pavel Moc Fechtschwert by Shay Roberts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shay Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Martin, thanks for this article. These look promising indeed! Only two concerns for me. 1) How pointy are those schilt tips? 2) Will the final run have a fatter, rounder tip on the quillons? I&#039;d prefer not to have to blunt such a nice looking sword.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin, thanks for this article. These look promising indeed! Only two concerns for me. 1) How pointy are those schilt tips? 2) Will the final run have a fatter, rounder tip on the quillons? I&#8217;d prefer not to have to blunt such a nice looking sword.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Body and cutting mechanics &#8211; project start by Krist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed Roger, it works 

We started practicing Meyers longsword transitions in our club.  
Looking forward in sharing ideas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed Roger, it works </p>
<p>We started practicing Meyers longsword transitions in our club.<br />
Looking forward in sharing ideas</p>
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		<title>Comment on Body and cutting mechanics &#8211; project start by Roger Norling</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Norling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Should be working now though. I got an email that you had registered and I have given you &quot;contributor&quot; rights so you can post articles. Let me know if you don&#039;t receive any confirmation email and I will help you get things sorted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Should be working now though. I got an email that you had registered and I have given you &#8220;contributor&#8221; rights so you can post articles. Let me know if you don&#8217;t receive any confirmation email and I will help you get things sorted.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Body and cutting mechanics &#8211; project start by Krist</title>
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		<dc:creator>Krist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Feb 2012 18:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Roger, 

Great idea and I would like to join, but I can&#039;t seem to register.  
After filling in the required fields I don&#039;t get a confirmation mail

greetz
Krist</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roger, </p>
<p>Great idea and I would like to join, but I can&#8217;t seem to register.<br />
After filling in the required fields I don&#8217;t get a confirmation mail</p>
<p>greetz<br />
Krist</p>
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		<title>Comment on Body and cutting mechanics &#8211; project start by Kevin Maurer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin Maurer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 03:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a great topic to discuss.  And one that is close to the study of Meyer.  The guards and the actual positioning of our bodies is contingent upon what physical affect is taking place.  And often that physical movement of our bodies, combined with wide stepping, and exaggerated body leaning,  will help the sword to go faster to where you need it.   Imagine you are throwing a Zwerch hau to an oppenent&#039;s left ear, with a step of your right foot in the guard of the Dach,  but lets say you wanted to zucken immediately at point of impact. Were you to immediately step to the opponents&#039; left as you are stepping to the right after doing the zwerch, with a  Zucken, your momentum actually pulls your sword along.  and you can easily develop a power that facilitates the umbschlagen, or striking around to the other side.  Where, surprisingly enough,  the opponent is usually open.  Plus your body is moving on a line that is mostly 45 degrees and away, past the opponent, If you can stay behind your sword when doing this, it offers more protection. Keeping your hands high is advised by Meyer also.    This is a simple example of body and cutting mechanics.  there are many within the art of Meyer. 

So to practice something like this, you could start without a sword.  but keep your hands out in front of you.  Make exaggerated steps, and  lean deeply with your body offline. This is a great workout too.  It works the right muscles.  Maybe step first with the right foot deep  to the opponents&#039; left side, and then quickly spring with your left foot pointed at the opponent  around to his right, and quickly swinging your right leg behind your left.  Your body should ideally remain facing the opponent.  So you gotta turn your hips, this is helped by keeping your lead foot open.  if you keep practicing this, it will make you quicker.  And quicker is better.  Also you can add an abzug strike after you have first stepped to your right, then  around to your left with the triangle step, you can immediately step backwards,  behind your right foot with  a full step of the left foot and reverse the process, by turning your right foot open to the opponent and again turning your hips.   You end up where you began, and are free to do it again!   Practice this without a Sword frequently, and then try it with the Sword.   Also reverse it, by starting to the left instead. 
Lots of fun.  and remember to lean your head and shoulders and try to stay behind your sword.  Meyer advised this several times.  So it is a prime example of Body mechanics that often affect the Cutting, thrusting and parrying mechanics.   Body mechanics are useless though without advantageous stepping.  Not only is it the stepping, but the foot placement that affects the body positioning.   And lest we forget the most important thing is the feet take us in and out of measure.    Footwork and Body mechanics are a great topic for  continuous discussion, i think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a great topic to discuss.  And one that is close to the study of Meyer.  The guards and the actual positioning of our bodies is contingent upon what physical affect is taking place.  And often that physical movement of our bodies, combined with wide stepping, and exaggerated body leaning,  will help the sword to go faster to where you need it.   Imagine you are throwing a Zwerch hau to an oppenent&#8217;s left ear, with a step of your right foot in the guard of the Dach,  but lets say you wanted to zucken immediately at point of impact. Were you to immediately step to the opponents&#8217; left as you are stepping to the right after doing the zwerch, with a  Zucken, your momentum actually pulls your sword along.  and you can easily develop a power that facilitates the umbschlagen, or striking around to the other side.  Where, surprisingly enough,  the opponent is usually open.  Plus your body is moving on a line that is mostly 45 degrees and away, past the opponent, If you can stay behind your sword when doing this, it offers more protection. Keeping your hands high is advised by Meyer also.    This is a simple example of body and cutting mechanics.  there are many within the art of Meyer. </p>
<p>So to practice something like this, you could start without a sword.  but keep your hands out in front of you.  Make exaggerated steps, and  lean deeply with your body offline. This is a great workout too.  It works the right muscles.  Maybe step first with the right foot deep  to the opponents&#8217; left side, and then quickly spring with your left foot pointed at the opponent  around to his right, and quickly swinging your right leg behind your left.  Your body should ideally remain facing the opponent.  So you gotta turn your hips, this is helped by keeping your lead foot open.  if you keep practicing this, it will make you quicker.  And quicker is better.  Also you can add an abzug strike after you have first stepped to your right, then  around to your left with the triangle step, you can immediately step backwards,  behind your right foot with  a full step of the left foot and reverse the process, by turning your right foot open to the opponent and again turning your hips.   You end up where you began, and are free to do it again!   Practice this without a Sword frequently, and then try it with the Sword.   Also reverse it, by starting to the left instead.<br />
Lots of fun.  and remember to lean your head and shoulders and try to stay behind your sword.  Meyer advised this several times.  So it is a prime example of Body mechanics that often affect the Cutting, thrusting and parrying mechanics.   Body mechanics are useless though without advantageous stepping.  Not only is it the stepping, but the foot placement that affects the body positioning.   And lest we forget the most important thing is the feet take us in and out of measure.    Footwork and Body mechanics are a great topic for  continuous discussion, i think.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Rules of the Fight and Effective Training by Kip Larson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kip Larson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2012 20:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My own experience hasn&#039;t seen a lot of benefit from free play that early. I doubt that the OGs free-played so early either, but I don&#039;t have any quotes on hand to back up that sentiment. I seem to recall later-period masters counseling very delayed ramp-up to unrestricted play. This is something I&#039;m willing to be corrected on, however. We don&#039;t really have enough information on what successful technique looks like, let alone what constitutes the most direct training path to attaining that technique.

It&#039;s worth clarifying that &quot;free-play&quot; can often encapsulate a wide variety of activities. I have seen huge benefit from focused sparring of the kind that is popular in boxing training. Agent attempts to strike Patient with his choice of techniques X,Y, or Z while Patient defends with his choice of techniques A,B, or C- this activity could be called &quot;Free Play&quot; at its higher permutations. &quot;Free Play&quot; with senior students can often approximate this dynamic and closely supervised play between serious-minded beginners can approach this form as well. I have also seen a lot of &quot;bumfights with swords.&quot;

I&#039;d also like to add the caveat that these assumptions are highly sensitive to the end goal you are trying to achieve. If the goal is produce fighters who can win bouts under [insert ruleset here], then early free play might be a great training approach (to paraphrase the entirety of the Bullshido Forum: &quot;if you want to train to be a street-fighter, go pick a lot of fights in bars&quot;). If the goal is to produce martial artists who can smoothly and precisely perform the treatise-derived techniques at speed, then free play is probably not the best use of a marginal training hour at the experience level we&#039;re talking about. Most of us are shooting for some middle ground on that continuum, so it&#039;s understandable if we come up with slightly different answers to this question.

One more caveat- we&#039;re largely arguing about the best use of a marginal hour of training. Given an infinite amount of training time, virtually any sword-related activity has some kind of potential benefit. When I say &quot;I am skeptical of early free play,&quot; I only mean that I can think of uses of that training time that give better results at the margin.

Last thing: free play is fun. HEMA is recreation. A well-run class in 2012 should make more concessions to fun-but-less-useful activities than a well-run class in 1412. If I&#039;d had stricter exercise in my early training, I might have better technique, but I&#039;d have had less fun along the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My own experience hasn&#8217;t seen a lot of benefit from free play that early. I doubt that the OGs free-played so early either, but I don&#8217;t have any quotes on hand to back up that sentiment. I seem to recall later-period masters counseling very delayed ramp-up to unrestricted play. This is something I&#8217;m willing to be corrected on, however. We don&#8217;t really have enough information on what successful technique looks like, let alone what constitutes the most direct training path to attaining that technique.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s worth clarifying that &#8220;free-play&#8221; can often encapsulate a wide variety of activities. I have seen huge benefit from focused sparring of the kind that is popular in boxing training. Agent attempts to strike Patient with his choice of techniques X,Y, or Z while Patient defends with his choice of techniques A,B, or C- this activity could be called &#8220;Free Play&#8221; at its higher permutations. &#8220;Free Play&#8221; with senior students can often approximate this dynamic and closely supervised play between serious-minded beginners can approach this form as well. I have also seen a lot of &#8220;bumfights with swords.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also like to add the caveat that these assumptions are highly sensitive to the end goal you are trying to achieve. If the goal is produce fighters who can win bouts under [insert ruleset here], then early free play might be a great training approach (to paraphrase the entirety of the Bullshido Forum: &#8220;if you want to train to be a street-fighter, go pick a lot of fights in bars&#8221;). If the goal is to produce martial artists who can smoothly and precisely perform the treatise-derived techniques at speed, then free play is probably not the best use of a marginal training hour at the experience level we&#8217;re talking about. Most of us are shooting for some middle ground on that continuum, so it&#8217;s understandable if we come up with slightly different answers to this question.</p>
<p>One more caveat- we&#8217;re largely arguing about the best use of a marginal hour of training. Given an infinite amount of training time, virtually any sword-related activity has some kind of potential benefit. When I say &#8220;I am skeptical of early free play,&#8221; I only mean that I can think of uses of that training time that give better results at the margin.</p>
<p>Last thing: free play is fun. HEMA is recreation. A well-run class in 2012 should make more concessions to fun-but-less-useful activities than a well-run class in 1412. If I&#8217;d had stricter exercise in my early training, I might have better technique, but I&#8217;d have had less fun along the way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Rules of the Fight and Effective Training by Odysseas Dallas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Odysseas Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify my point, 2-3 months of average modern training. That would mean, for 2 times a week of 1,5 hour lessons, about 12-18 hours of practice. 

Essentially, back then in the day where they trained for 4-8 hours a day, within the first week of attendance in a fencing school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify my point, 2-3 months of average modern training. That would mean, for 2 times a week of 1,5 hour lessons, about 12-18 hours of practice. </p>
<p>Essentially, back then in the day where they trained for 4-8 hours a day, within the first week of attendance in a fencing school.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Rules of the Fight and Effective Training by Bro. Chris Holloman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bro. Chris Holloman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the clarification!  I have yet to study Fiore.  I am trying to wrap my mind around the Dobringer.  I completely agree that being &quot;agressive&quot; and seeking to win the first strike, does not mean to be reckless!  Still so much to learn!

Bro. Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the clarification!  I have yet to study Fiore.  I am trying to wrap my mind around the Dobringer.  I completely agree that being &#8220;agressive&#8221; and seeking to win the first strike, does not mean to be reckless!  Still so much to learn!</p>
<p>Bro. Chris</p>
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