Meyer's staff techniques - Ambiguities
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 10:34 am
Hi everyone!
For quite some time I together with the rest of the GHFS polearms study group have been focusing on Joachim Meyer's Halber Stangen techniques, as you can see from our Training Diary here.
I think we have pretty good interpretations of all techniques in his 1570 book by now, but there are a few very basic questions that remain unanswered and I would very much appreciate your comments here.
Please also give some reasons why you think how you think and on what grounds you base your arguments.
Here are the questions:
1. Is there a right Oberhut and if so, how should it be done? With the left hand leading or with the right?
2. How do you do the second Nebenhut? It is never described in the section on Halber Stangen.
3. Should you ever change which hand that leads with the staff?
4. Is the guard system symmetric in the sense that you should do all guards on both sides? Note the choice of words here.
5. Since you need to read the whole book to fully understand how things connect, do you think it is OK to transfer concepts from the langen spiess and hellbarten sections to the halberstangen? Things are clearly different, both due to the difference in weapons, but also with regards to how guards with the same name are done depending on the weapon...
Finally, I would also like to encourange everyone to discuss openly any questions you may have regarding Meyers staff section.
Thank you for any assistance you can give here!
For quite some time I together with the rest of the GHFS polearms study group have been focusing on Joachim Meyer's Halber Stangen techniques, as you can see from our Training Diary here.
I think we have pretty good interpretations of all techniques in his 1570 book by now, but there are a few very basic questions that remain unanswered and I would very much appreciate your comments here.
Please also give some reasons why you think how you think and on what grounds you base your arguments.
Here are the questions:
1. Is there a right Oberhut and if so, how should it be done? With the left hand leading or with the right?
2. How do you do the second Nebenhut? It is never described in the section on Halber Stangen.
3. Should you ever change which hand that leads with the staff?
4. Is the guard system symmetric in the sense that you should do all guards on both sides? Note the choice of words here.
5. Since you need to read the whole book to fully understand how things connect, do you think it is OK to transfer concepts from the langen spiess and hellbarten sections to the halberstangen? Things are clearly different, both due to the difference in weapons, but also with regards to how guards with the same name are done depending on the weapon...
Finally, I would also like to encourange everyone to discuss openly any questions you may have regarding Meyers staff section.
Thank you for any assistance you can give here!